Introducing Basic Randomness into Minidisc (using iTunes)
November 5, 2005Problem: Filling Minidiscs with random tracks is impossible, thanks to the inflexibility of SonicStage, the exclusive means with which you may fill a typical Minidisc. Since Sony keeps the transfer protocol for Minidisc under lock and key, and SonicStage apparently lacks a scripting interface, SonicStage will only have the ‘advanced’ features that users of iTunes and Winamp enjoy only if and when it pleases Sony. In other words, probably never.
Therefore, the Minidisc user craving randomnosity in their music-listening experience is thwarted. Or is he? (Or she. Indeed, are they both thus thwarted? For frustration discriminates not according to gender.)
Here is a simple way to introduce basic randomness into your Minidiscs. You’ll need:
- The latest version of SonicStage. (Registration required, or you can download the official one from Sony.)
- The latest version of iTunes.
- A desire for randomness in your minidisc listening experience.
For this tutorial, I use iTunes, but you may be able to use other music management software such as Winamp or Windows Media Player. I prefer iTunes because I also have an iPod, and in spite of its bloat (and the barely-detectable level of smarm present in any Apple program or user), iTunes is a snappy, well-thought-out bit of software with a ton of worthy features.
Short version:
- Create a random playlist of appropriate size using iTunes.
- Drag-n-drop the tracks from the iTunes playlist into a new playlist in SonicStage.
- Transfer the new random tracks to your Minidisc, and enjoy!
Long, detailed version:
- Download and install iTunes. (Oh noes!)
Marvel at its simplicity, relative speed, and sophisticated playlist management. Seriously, this is some good stuff that you’re missing out on. - You may wish to page through iTunes’ preferences dialog to weed out any annoying ‘features’ that Apple enables by default:
- iTunes may set itself as the default player for your system.
- You may not want iTunes to automatically manage your music library if you have your own system of organizing your music.
- You may also wish to disable the Quicktime tray utility, and the file preferences it hijacks upon installation.
- If you don’t have an iPod, you can also disable the iPod Windows Service that is set to Automatic by default.
- Import your music library into iTunes.
- Create a new “Smart Playlist.” In iTunes, this is CTRL+ALT+N.
For the uninitiated, a Smart Playlist is one that dynamically creates a list of tracks based on parameters that you set. In our case, we want a random selection of music that is just long enough to fit on a Minidisc. When it comes to music management, the Smart Playlist is nothing short of revolutionary, giving you the ability to effectively create your own smart, autonomous radio station. I might get into the specifics of that in another post. For now, basic randomness is good enough for us.
- Set the Smart Playlist to include a random selection of songs, the length of which is equal to the size of your Minidisc.
For me, that’s LP2, so my list would look like this:

If you can’t see the image above, the options are:- “Match the following rule:” is unchecked.
- “Limit to” is 160 minutes “selected by” random.
- “Match only checked songs” is checked.
- “Live updating” is checked.
- Click “OK” and iTunes should faithfully render a random stream of tunes roughly 160 minutes long, ready for the playing.
At this point, you can continue to fiddle with Smart Playlists to your heart’s content. Right-click on them and select “Edit” to do so.
For example, if you see tracks you don’t like, delete them, and the Live Updating option will allow iTunes to magically replace them. Or, if you only want soundtracks to appear in your playlist, you can add a rule governing that, or any number of variables, in the Smart Playlist. - Create a bunch of lists, one for each Minidisc if you want.
- Open SonicStage.
- Create a new, empty playlist in Sonic Stage.
- Open the playlist.
- In iTunes, select all the files in your Smart Playlist (CTRL+A).
- Arrange SonicStage and iTunes on your screen so you can see both windows.
- Drag-n-drop the files from iTunes into the blank SonicStage playlist.

Congratulations! You now have a random playlist in SonicStage! - If you have created multiple blank playlists in SonicStage, and you have Live Updating enabled on your iTunes Smart Playlist, you can quickly fill up additional playlists by:
- Selecting all files in the iTunes playlist and deleting them.
This does not remove the files from iTunes or your hard drive, it simply removes them from the playlist. - iTunes automatically fills the playlist with more, random files.
- Select all, drag-n-drop the files into the blank Sonic Stage playlist.
- Repeat as necessary.
- Selecting all files in the iTunes playlist and deleting them.
- Finally, transfer your new, random playlists onto your minidiscs. Enjoy your new pocket radio station, and no longer feel (as) jealous about people with hard drive-based players!
Hi, do you happen to know how do you copy more that one file across at a time? When I drag and drop only one file is carried across.
Comment by James — February 7, 2006 @ 1:01 am
I haven’t had that problem. Are you selecting all the tracks in iTunes? All selected tracks in a playlist should be highlighted in blue (see the screenshot). When you do the drag-n-drop, SonicStage should take a few minutes to accept all the files, shown by a progress box. Also, make sure you are dragging the iTunes playlist into a new, blank SonicStage playlist. Finally, you might have to clean out your SonicStage library (I’d back it up first and then wipe it out), so that it recognizes the tracks you are dragging into it as new ones. SonicStage is notoriously buggy software, and it wouldn’t surprise me if it isn’t working consistently across multiple machines. Check http://forums.minidisc.org for more help.
–frog
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